Biden's Border "Victory"

08 Feb 2024 09:58 #91 by FredHayek
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koobookie wrote: Ask yourself, Fred, why did the Republicans torpedo the bill that would have addressed the "crisis" at the border? Senate Republicans helped to write the bill, negotiated with Dems, yet they wouldn't vote for it?

I guess the border "crisis" isn't a crisis after all.


Or they decided the border solutions were inadequate? Now the House and Senate can create a new border bill that doesn't benefit corrupt Ukrainian oligarchs.

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08 Feb 2024 10:36 - 08 Feb 2024 10:36 #92 by koobookie
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08 Feb 2024 11:34 #93 by ramage
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The face and prime mover of the Republican negotiating committee, in fact, did vote for the bill,, Sen Langford (R-OK). If there were others negotiating I am unable to find out who they were. Who are these other Republicans that you say helped to write this bill?

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08 Feb 2024 12:14 #94 by koobookie
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Lankford and I assume his staff. That makes it a bi-partisan bill.

www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/202...ankford/72495722007/

Sen. James Lankford, R-Okla., walked into the Senate chamber Wednesday afternoon and cast a "yes" vote on a $118 billion piece of legislation he spent Thanksgiving, Christmas and New Year's Day crafting. He was one of only four Republicans to do so.

It was the conclusion of a monthslong, bipartisan project to broker a massive border security and foreign aid deal that was derailed when former President Donald Trump – with an eye on his 2024 presidential campaign – began publicly slamming the bill before it was even released.


Oh, and Lankford was threatened by conservatives for working with Dems.

His efforts as the lead GOP negotiator were called into question as Trump called the bill a “horrible, open borders betrayal of America” and House Speaker Mike Johnson pledged it was “dead on arrival.”

A group of more than 170 Oklahoma Republicans voted to condemn him in an unsanctioned meeting last month, accusing him of “playing fast and loose with Democrats” to forge a deal. Conservative commentators are portraying him as an intentionally bad actor or as a “poor dupe."

"I had a popular commentator, four weeks ago that I talked to, that told me flat out... if you try to move a bill that solves the border crisis during this presidential year, I will do whatever I can to destroy you," Lankford said on the Senate floor Wednesday. "By the way, they have been faithful to their promise."


I guess since Republicans don't have any actual accomplishments to campaign on, they have to make sure the border "crisis" remains chaotic in order for Trump, and Congressional GOP, to have any chance of winning.

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08 Feb 2024 12:37 #95 by FredHayek
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Why is this guy still running?

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16 Feb 2024 09:10 #96 by koobookie
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I thought the border situation was a "crisis." Why is the House of Representatives going on recess until Feb 28th? I guess it's not a crisis, just a manufactured political stunt.

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16 Feb 2024 13:07 #97 by FredHayek
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koobookie wrote: I thought the border situation was a "crisis." Why is the House of Representatives going on recess until Feb 28th? I guess it's not a crisis, just a manufactured political stunt.


It is an election year. They are going back to their districts to find out the concerns of their constituents and hopefully win reelection.
K considers this undesirable. She wants them to pass an immigration bill that allows 5,000 illegals in a day.

Even if the GOP House passed a better bill next week, the Democrat Senate would never pass it and President Biden would never sign it. So it makes no sense to stay in DC right now.

Thomas Sowell: There are no solutions, just trade-offs.

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16 Feb 2024 13:13 #98 by koobookie
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FredHayek wrote: It is an election year. They are going back to their districts to find out the concerns of their constituents and hopefully win reelection.
K considers this undesirable. She wants them to pass an immigration bill that allows 5,000 illegals in a day.

Even if the GOP House passed a better bill next week, the Democrat Senate would never pass it and President Biden would never sign it. So it makes no sense to stay in DC right now.


You like to put words in my mouth, Fred. You do it quite often, telling me what I think. Please stop.

I don't actually think it's undesirable, I think it's irresponsible and hypocritical. If it's so much of a crisis, why don't they stay and work on solving the crisis? This is not that hard to understand, Fred.

And saying that the Senate won't pass a House bill is a cop out. They can work together and find a solution. That's their freaking job, but no, they have to go on recess rather than work for the people who hired them.


Do you realize the the continuing resolution expires on March 1? That means that the House has three days, Feb 28, 29 and March 1, to pass a bill to keep the government functioning.

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16 Feb 2024 16:10 #99 by FredHayek
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Good.
What is the purpose of hiring Border Guards if they are not allowed to do their job?
So far I am liking Johnson much more than McCarthy.

Maybe shutting down the government will help to create a better border bill. The "shutdown" is just fake anyway. Biden's Border Boys will continue to ignore the US Constitution and escort thousands of illegal aliens to cross the border every day. Ruining the budgets of sanctuary cities all over America.

Thomas Sowell: There are no solutions, just trade-offs.

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16 Feb 2024 18:49 #100 by FredHayek
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Population increases raise all boats?

WSJ:
The CBO says the record high numbers of illegal immigrants are helping Biden's economy. While Europe is seeing recession signs, millions of new illegal immigrants are increasing demand for goods and housing. Boosting the economy with increased spending and millions more workers. Downside? Increased deficit spending of 200 million per day.
These young, working age people use less benefits than aging native born Americans.

So you can see why Democrats like Schumer and Republicans like McConnell want to pass a bill that lets in 5,000 illegals a day.

Thomas Sowell: There are no solutions, just trade-offs.

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