Impeachment proceedings against Trump

21 Dec 2019 08:54 #861 by Pony Soldier
Pizza Guy: Who ordered the impeachment pie?

Democrats: We did!

Pizza Guy: That's gonna cost you $20.20

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21 Dec 2019 10:11 #862 by Blazer Bob
www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-f...ns-remaining-928081/

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Are media corrections forthcoming?
The Horowitz report makes clear that multiple news cycles over the past few years were dominated by reports that were either incorrect or lacking factual foundation.

These included assertions by multiple outlets that the Steele dossier was not central to the FBI’s efforts to secure a warrant on Page; that the FBI found Christopher Steele and his dossier “credible”; that tales of FISA abuse were a conspiracy theory (one of many claims Mother Jones called “bullshit”); that the memo written by Devin Nunes on the subject was wrong and had been “debunked”; that Russians “blocked” Trump from nominating Mitt Romney as secretary of state; that Trump lawyer Michael Cohen was in Prague (presumably to meet Russian hackers); that a “pee tape” existed; that Russia’s Alfa Bank and the Trump campaign were communicating via a secret server; that the FISA warrant on Page must have been producing good intelligence in order to be renewed three times; and many other things.

The Washington Post is one of the few outlets to start the process of reassessing its coverage, noting in a fact check that a “fair amount” of the Nunes memo had been “vindicated” by Horowitz. Ari Melber of MSNBC also called out James Comey for being “over his skis” on the “pee tape.” These are first steps, but Horowitz’s findings suggest a much broader thematic media FUBAR that’s still being ignored."...

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21 Dec 2019 14:02 - 21 Dec 2019 14:03 #863 by Rick

Blazer Bob wrote: www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-f...ns-remaining-928081/

...".

Are media corrections forthcoming?
The Horowitz report makes clear that multiple news cycles over the past few years were dominated by reports that were either incorrect or lacking factual foundation.

I wouldn’t expect the Demedia or any of the people on this board who swallow their bullshit to ever admit they were wrong. Orange Man Bad, nothing else need be said.

It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies and nosers−out of unorthodoxy

George Orwell

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22 Dec 2019 09:41 #864 by homeagain

Blazer Bob wrote: www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-f...ns-remaining-928081/

...".

Are media corrections forthcoming?
The Horowitz report makes clear that multiple news cycles over the past few years were dominated by reports that were either incorrect or lacking factual foundation.

These included assertions by multiple outlets that the Steele dossier was not central to the FBI’s efforts to secure a warrant on Page; that the FBI found Christopher Steele and his dossier “credible”; that tales of FISA abuse were a conspiracy theory (one of many claims Mother Jones called “bullshit”); that the memo written by Devin Nunes on the subject was wrong and had been “debunked”; that Russians “blocked” Trump from nominating Mitt Romney as secretary of state; that Trump lawyer Michael Cohen was in Prague (presumably to meet Russian hackers); that a “pee tape” existed; that Russia’s Alfa Bank and the Trump campaign were communicating via a secret server; that the FISA warrant on Page must have been producing good intelligence in order to be renewed three times; and many other things.

The Washington Post is one of the few outlets to start the process of reassessing its coverage, noting in a fact check that a “fair amount” of the Nunes memo had been “vindicated” by Horowitz. Ari Melber of MSNBC also called out James Comey for being “over his skis” on the “pee tape.” These are first steps, but Horowitz’s findings suggest a much broader thematic media FUBAR that’s still being ignored."...


bolded.....he is a lawyer and THAT is what he does on his show "on the Beat"....he plays
devil's advocate many times, attempt to balance the show AND brings on cool musicians
of all genres to "riff" and get engaged in a discussion.....cool,cool approach to politics... most
of his guests are past prosecutors or legal eagles...so there is a LEGAL angle in the presentations and discussions.....NOT just an opinion

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23 Dec 2019 12:49 #865 by FredHayek
It does appear days after the impeachment vote that nothing else will happen over it. Which is probably ok for the misdemeanors committed.

Thomas Sowell: There are no solutions, just trade-offs.

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23 Dec 2019 13:10 #866 by koobookie

FredHayek wrote: It does appear days after the impeachment vote that nothing else will happen over it. Which is probably ok for the misdemeanors committed.


You are very impatient. Wait. At some point, the articles will be sent to the Senate, and then the trial will happen.

BTW - I am glad you agree that the articles list Trumps' misdemeanors.

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24 Dec 2019 08:22 #867 by FredHayek
:silly: Pelosi's botched impeachment is getting even more bizarre. Now the Democrats threatening to impeach President Trump for other crimes. LOL. "Trump will be the first President impeached twice or more!" It is like Dean Wormer, "Double impeachment".

But really this case won't go to the Senate either, or if it does, it will just get voted down in a partisan fashion. And Pelosi will look weak. She let the radicals talk her into a partisan impeachment show based on a phone call that Nancy had to know wouldn't get anywhere and the big result? President Trump's popularity is rising.

Thomas Sowell: There are no solutions, just trade-offs.

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30 Dec 2019 20:31 #868 by ramage
Breitbart.com 12/30/19
"A federal judge in Washington, D.C. dismissed a lawsuit Monday that sought to determine whether a witness had to obey a subpoena from the impeachment inquiry after Democrats withdrew the subpoena and impeached Trump anyway.

U.S. District Court Judge Richard Leon decided Monday that the suit filed by Charles Kupperman, a former aide to former National Security Advisor John Bolton, was moot because the subpoena had already been withdrawn. The House Intelligence Committee had sought to compel Kupperman’s testimony as part of its inquiry into President Donald Trump’s dealings with Ukraine, alleging he withheld U.S. aid in return for investigations into former Vice President Joe Biden, who at the time was leading polls to win the Democratic Party’s 2020 presidential nomination."

So much for point number 2, Obstruction of Congress.

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31 Dec 2019 16:22 #869 by Rick

ramage wrote: Breitbart.com 12/30/19
"A federal judge in Washington, D.C. dismissed a lawsuit Monday that sought to determine whether a witness had to obey a subpoena from the impeachment inquiry after Democrats withdrew the subpoena and impeached Trump anyway.

U.S. District Court Judge Richard Leon decided Monday that the suit filed by Charles Kupperman, a former aide to former National Security Advisor John Bolton, was moot because the subpoena had already been withdrawn. The House Intelligence Committee had sought to compel Kupperman’s testimony as part of its inquiry into President Donald Trump’s dealings with Ukraine, alleging he withheld U.S. aid in return for investigations into former Vice President Joe Biden, who at the time was leading polls to win the Democratic Party’s 2020 presidential nomination."

So much for point number 2, Obstruction of Congress.

The system working as it was designed, excellent.

It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies and nosers−out of unorthodoxy

George Orwell

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02 Jan 2020 16:16 #870 by koobookie

In the face of warnings from the Pentagon that the hold on military aid to Ukraine could be illegal, an official from the Office of Management and Budget made it clear that the order to keep the freeze in place came directly from President Donald Trump, according to unredacted documents reviewed by Just Security.


www.cnn.com/2020/01/02/politics/unredact...-concerns/index.html

Is this the smoking gun? This illustrates the need for a thorough and complete trial in the Senate, where any and all witnesses associated with the situation should testify.

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